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Andrea Useem, creator and publisher of, is a freelance journalist and editor based in Northern Virginia who specializes in writing about religion. Andrea holds a Masters of Theological Studies from Harvard Divinity School, as well as a Bachelors degree in religion from Dartmouth College. Previously, Andrea worked as a freelance journalist in Eastern Africa for four years; she has also lived in Muscat, Oman. She is married and has three sons.

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“Osama Bin-Who?” Native Deen, and Why American Muslims Shouldn’t Play the Victim

When ReligionWriter first heard that the American Muslim hip-hop group Native Deen had a new album out this winter, she wanted to buy it right away. Native Deen’s earlier album, The Deen You Know, was played more-or-less non-stop in RW’s car for months, at the request of her young sons, who loved to rock out to the title track. (FYI for non-Muslim types: “deen” means religion in Arabic.) At the December Eid al-Adha celebration in downtown D.C. (an event well-captured on video by Washington Post religion reporter Michelle Boorstein,) RW brought her sons over to buy the new CD, Not Afraid to Stand Alone, from none other than Joshua Salaam — one of the three members of Native Deen, who also happens to be the youth director at the ADAMS Center, RW’s own mosque. RW’s sons shyly handed over the money, thrilled to see a “celebrity” they admire face to face.

For American Muslims who are integrated into American culture but who want to give their children a distinctly Muslim identity, Native Deen offers a seemingly perfect product. The hip hop is not cutting edge, but the production values are high, the lyrics are relevant and even funny, and the message is all about fearing God, doing right, and proudly bearing the label “Muslim.” (Very conservative Muslims might find Native Deen too assimilated and the use of music itself religiously questionable.) So if there is a musical face of mainstream American Islam, one that is polished and popular enough for non-Muslims to notice, it is surely Native Deen: they have little competition for this mantle.

(Above, Native Deen members: L-R, Abdul-Malik Ahmad, Naeem Mohammad and Joshua Salaam. Photo courtesy of Daze Studios.)

With high expectations, then, RW listened to the new album, Not Afraid to Stand Alone, which now loops more or less continuously in her car.

In many ways the album was full of treats for a hip-hop appreciating American Muslim. It has many excellent songs, including one or two that simply set repeated prayers to a contagious beat, putting an ultramodern spin on the age-old Muslim tradition of dhikr, or constant prayer. And songs like “Labbayk,” about making the hajj, or pilgrimage to Mecca, are just fast and fun (”And you ain’t done nothin’ til you done Zamzam!”) Even the old Muslim standard “Tala’al Badru,” the song that followers allegedly sang when the Prophet Mohammed finally arrived in the city of Medina, gets a fresh new beat.

“I am not afraid to stand alone”

But three songs, including the title track, are frankly troubling. All three present American Muslims as beaten down by some inexplicable prejudice, hounded by an unjust government and a malicious media. The refrain of the title track — “I am not afraid to stand alone when Allah is by my side” — reflects the spirit of the album, which is that American Muslims have to be their own cheerleaders because they are religiously persecuted in this country.

These themes of victimhood are a departure from Native Deen’s earlier album, which was far less political. Could it be that as American public opinion hardens against Muslims that American Muslims, in spite of being “middle class and mostly mainstream,” are hardening in their own way?

“My faith will never bend”

The title track, “Not Afraid to Stand Alone,” tells the story of a single mother who coverts to Islam (in the music video, she’s represented as a white American) and begins wearing a headscarf. Struggling to raise her two children, she goes back to school and is about to say yes to a corporate “dream job” that was close by and well-paid. But when she goes for the final interview:

They brought her in, said she’s the number one pick,
“You got the job, but you gotta lose the outfit.”

The woman responds:

It’s a tough position that they put me in
Cause I’ve been struggling with my two children
But I’ll continue looking for a job again
My faith in my religion now will never bend

It’s a clear-cut case of workplace discrimination. Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act makes it unlawful for employers to discriminate on the basis of religion. Religious dress is usually protected under this law, unless it somehow interferes with health or safety. Muslim women who encounter discrimination like that described above are advised to reason with employers, and failing that, file a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. There are many cases in which employers have been forced to backtrack on their anti-hijab stand.

RW’s question to Native Deen is: Why emphasize the victimhood angle here? For one thing, Muslim advocacy organizations like CAIR (which Joshua Salaam himself used to work for) are constantly trying to educate American Muslims about their rights. Simply from an education standpoint, then, this song and video send the wrong message, which is that if you are discriminated against because of your religion at work, you have only two options: compromise or find a different job. The take-away is, indeed, if you are an American Muslim, you will have to “stand alone,” because no one will defend you.

In fact, this message runs exactly counter to very thing that many American Muslims most appreciate about the U.S.: freedom and legal protection to practice their religion. In one of the album’s “interludes,” in which prominent American Muslim praise Native Deen and their message, activist Rami Nashishibi reminds Muslim listeners that they stand alongside the Muslim “ummah,” or community, around the world, “a billion strong.”

But if that sense of solidarity and global awareness were really that strong, Native Deen might think again spreading the message that American Muslim women have it bad. Headscarf-wearing women in Turkey are not even allowed to enter government-run universities; compare that to state universities in the U.S., where Muslim students organize and often have college-owned facilities in which to pray. On the flip side, as in Iran or Saudi, women are legally compelled to cover — a government mandate Native Deen and their mainstream audience would probably dislike. Both of these situations are far more compelling and important and in need of attention than routine workplace discrimination for which American Muslims have clear avenues of legal redress.

“Like 23 Agents Looking at Me”

If the title track irks RW, then it is a later song, “Still Strong” that she actually tries to skip over when her children are listening, in an attempt to shield them from its wrong-headedness.

The song’s story starts out with an American Muslim guy enjoying a lazy Sunday morning with his wife and kids, “minding my biz,” when suddenly a loud knocking comes at the door:

I open the door, and what do I see
Its like 23 agents looking at me
They threw the cuffs on my hands and my face to the floor
Dragged away, my family crying at the front door

Here we have a completely innocent Muslim man, ripped from his home by a gang of rude federal agents. You can guess what happens next:

And they was asking me that and asking me this
Accusing me of being on somebody’s terrorist list
I had to resist, I want a lawyer ’s all I would say
But they said that they would torture me all night and all day
And so I would pray for God to give me strength to get through
If the evidence I knew, I would prove it untrue
Osama Bin who? They want to say I support him
If I don’t give in, I’ll never see my family again

Threats of torture, forced confessions, deprivation of legal counsel, unlimited detention… Sounds pretty dramatic. Of course that description resonates with stories out of Guantanamo, and even some of the conditions encountered by unfairly treated American Muslims like now-exonerated Muslim Army Chaplain James Yee — these serious human rights abuses have come to light, and justice needs to be done.

But are these gross violations really so common that the average Muslim can expect to be dragged from his house by “23 agents” and threatened with torture? RW finds that extremely unlikely.

Sure, a number of American Muslims have been tried and convicted in spite of protests from the Muslim community. In Northern Virginia, which Native Deen calls home, for example, Ali al-Timimi, a Muslim scholar and local leader, was convicted in 2005 of inciting terrorism and sentenced to life in prison. The local Muslim community protested an “overzealous investigation,” in which al-Timimi was convicted only for what he said in lectures, rather than any actual terrorism organizing.

Okay, there may have been freedom of speech issues here, but let’s make one thing clear: Al-Timimi is not the kind of guy you want to line up behind. Shortly after September 11th, witnesses reported, he called on others to fight “violent jihad” against American military targets (Al-Timimi has since made multiple statements condemning terrorism). Even Mahdi Bray, executive director of the MAS Freedom Foundation, a Muslim advocacy organization, called Timimi’s statements “repugnant and inflammatory.” He was hardly a guy just “minding his biz.”

Reinforcing the “US=Crusaders” Mentality

When this “Still Strong” song appears in the context of the Native Deen album, which otherwise mostly focuses on real-life issues facing Muslim teens especially (there is a song warning against downloading porn and sneaking out of your house at night to party,) it reinforces the idea to American Muslims that they face immediate and real threats to their life and well-being from the federal government. And sadly, this idea needs no reinforcing. Around the world, Muslims are convinced that the U.S. government is out to get them, on a “crusade” against the very essence of their faith, as Muslim-analyst-rock-star Reza Aslan wrote recently.

RW recalls a telling moment in 2003, while living in Muscat, Oman, when she visited a small local museum while wearing a headscarf, as she did regularly at the time. The woman who took her ticket was surprised to meet an American Muslim; she asked RW what conditions were like, post-9/11, for American Muslims in the U.S., especially those who wore headscarves. “It’s not too bad; actually it’s fine,” answered RW. The Omani woman, who had never been to the U.S., disagreed: “No, it is very bad.” Even RW’s first-hand testimony could not dislodge the conviction the global Muslim perception that the United States is actively anti-Islam.

This is not to say that Native Deen now has to start working for the State Department (although they have), promoting the wonders of Islam in America to Muslims abroad. But at least they should not publish songs that reinforce the distorted perception that any American Muslim, at any time, is in danger of being “disappeared” by federal agents for no cause whatsoever. That simply feeds into the Muslim rhetoric that the Global War on Terror is actually a Christian crusade to eradicate Islam.

“Osama bin Who?”

The final point on this song is about the line “Osama bin who?” Nowhere in the album is there any recognition that, hey, Americans might have a reason to be predisposed to dislike or fear Muslims. For an American Muslim to pretend like they’ve never even heard of Osama bin Laden — come on. Of all things, Muslims should be deeply concerned about Osama bin Laden. For one thing, al Qaeda has made it clear they have absolutely no problem with killing fellow Muslims; for another thing, nearly any problem American Muslims have in the U.S. can be traced back to 9/11. Not that discrimination or hate crimes or bigotry should ever be justified or rationalized. It’s just that if your teacher punishes the whole class for the bad behavior of one student, should you be mad only at the teacher? How about having a word with your peer that provoked the situation?

“They don’t show us”

The last song that bothers RW is more personal, because, in “Be at the Top,” Native Deen takes on the media, of which RW is a proud member. Okay, guys, be ready to take what you give.

They ask in the first verse:

How come every time I go and I flip on the news channel
I see these images of Muslims having crude manners
Angry men, holding guns and a few camels
Terrorist pumping fists with their rude banners

Hmm, could it be that, in fact, there are lots of angry Muslims doing ridiculous things, often seeking out media attention? If Muslims are rioting the streets of Khartoum because an English teacher named a teddy bear Mohammad, well, that’s nobody’s fault by theirs. The song continues:

You get anxiety, from symbols of our piety
Cause they don’t show us Muslims who contribute to society
How come they don’t show us doing positive things
We get abused and harassed so many problems this brings

Whoa, did they just say “they don’t show us doing positive things”? The American media, particularly small-town newspapers, are absolutely filled with sympathetic Islam 101 stories. Indeed, some of this coverage has been so simplistic and affectionate that RW has complained and asked journalists to be a little more probing in their reporting.

This assertion that the media never covers anything positive about Islam is all the more nonsensical and untrue coming from Native Deen, which has itself received oodles of positive press coverage. Check out their recent interview on CBS. Even Fox News covered them sympathetically. And the Washington Post…the list could go on. Not only that, but Joshua Salaam is an active member of the ADAMS Center, which, as a relatively “progressive” mosque (though they probably wouldn’t use that word), gets lots of warm coverage, including a long article in Time Magazine about ADAMS Center leader Mohammad Magid, who works closely with the FBI to stamp out any signs of home-grown terrorism.

So what “media,” exactly, is Native Deen referring to when they rhyme: “It’s the media/
Feeding lies to the people, can’t you see that bro?” This conspiracy-theory view of a monolithic media is absurd, and the members of Native Deen themselves clearly know better. If Muslims around the world make headlines for blowing one another up, or protesting cartoons, or killing their own daughters, well, maybe they should think about changing their own behavior — and leaving the messenger alone.

Borrowing Advice Meant for Mitt Romney

The point of all this criticism is not to say that everything is perfect for American Muslims in the U.S. As a chilling story on NPR’s This American Life recently related, some individual Muslims, even young children in school, face daily harassment on account of nothing more than their religious affiliation.

The question American Muslims have to answer is: How are they going to respond to this treatment? Because when you get right down to it, asking for fair treatment is really asking to be accepted into the mainstream of American life, asking for a country in which being Muslim is no more “weird” or threatening than being agnostic or Jewish or Catholic. But if it’s all about acceptance, then what’s the point of building up a bunker mentality, in which you accuse non-Muslims of maliciously attacking you?

Interestingly, Mormons-another somewhat unpopular religious minority in the U.S.-have faced a similar issue. Through their history, Mormon believers have suffered very real persecution at the hands of the federal government and common citizens alike. On the eve of GOP candidate Mitt Romney’s December 2007 speech on religion, historian Wilfred McClay said, while speaking to a group of journalists, that although he doesn’t fault Romney for being angry about Mormon persecution or religious bigotry, it would be a mistake, politically, for Romney to play up this history of victimhood. Said McClay:

[Romney] can’t say, ‘Damn it, you have no right to be suspicious of me; [now] vote for me!’ I just don’t see how that is a workable approach.

American Muslims would do well to take this advice. If your goal is to live an unmolested life as an American, which means being accepted and welcomed by the bulk of Americans, then you probably want to think more about winning people over than lashing out at enemies, real or imagined.

This point of view does, thankfully, make a brief appearance on the album. Ingrid Mattson, the Canadian-born president of the largest Muslim group in North America (ISNA), says in her shout-out to album listeners, in one of the album’s interludes:

I want to remind all my brothers and sisters out there that I know it seems like times are tough, and there’s a lot of bad news, but at the same time, there are a lot of people out there who want to hear from us. They want to see that Muslims are their neighbors, are their friends, are good people. So hold your head up, keep that smile on your face that opens up hearts.

Ameen, sister.

There Are 19 Responses So Far. »

  1. Wow! What a thoughtful and well-laid out critique of the album!

  2. [...] “Osama Bin-Who?” Native Deen, and Why American Muslims Shouldn’t Play the Victim : ReligionWri… When ReligionWriter first heard that the American Muslim hip-hop group Native Deen had a new album out this winter, she wanted to buy it right away. Native Deen’s earlier album, The Deen You Know, was played more-or-less non-stop in RW’s car for months, at the request of her young sons, who loved to rock out to the title track. (FYI for non-Muslim types: “deen” means religion in Arabic.) At the December Eid al-Adha celebration in downtown D.C. (an event well-captured on video by Washington Post religion reporter Michelle Boorstein,) RW brought her sons over to buy the new CD, Not Afraid to Stand Alone, from none other than Joshua Salaam — one of the three members of Native Deen, who also happens to be the youth director at the ADAMS Center, RW’s own mosque. RW’s sons shyly handed over the money, thrilled to see a “celebrity” they admire face to face. [...]

  3. Salaam ‘Alaikum

    I think you are the first Muslim I have ever heard of that complains that the media isn’t critical enough of us. I wish I was reading and watching the same media you are…

  4. Assalamu Alaikum,

    There are some parts of this article I truly find refreshing - specifically the parts which advocate Muslims taking more responsibility for their own image and actions and stop acting like victims.

    As for the rest of it - I have only two words: IVORY TOWER.

    If you don’t know how commonplace some of these violations are, you have no idea what is happening in your own community.

    wa alaikum assalam

  5. ASA!

    Thank-you a million times over for this article. If you are the first Muslim that some have heard of to voice this perspective than more of us ought to speak up. As both an American historian and as an African American, Ive been especially wary of the extent to which many African-Americans continue to pay homage to a self-defeating victimization paradigm that does more to exacerbate problems then to solve them. To see a similar trend developing among American Muslims has been a source of no little irritation for me. Keep up the excellent work!


  6. [...] this week, I reviewed the latest album of Muslim hip-hop trio Native Deen, Not Afraid to Stand [...]

  7. Peace,

    I applaud the writer in her ability to articulate the issues that “dare not be discussed” in a virtual setting. I think this assessment not only brings forth the honest problems of the Muslim community, but adheres to the highest of spiritual and religious convictions of what Islam strives to be. The “old world” Islamic values, and I mean those values that are restricting the advancement of women, individual and group objective critique and violence is what has halted the progress of this beautiful faith tradition. The “new world” perspective is open for dialogue, tolerance, exchange of ideas (internally and sometimes externally with sincere intentions) is what must be seen as the future of Islam. The issues between the two are the essential struggles of the world in a very brief synopsis. If we all could embrace that victimization and blaming everyone else is the last thing that should be addressed, then only at this juncture can we move forward. Acknowledging the contribution of Muslim scientist, intellectuals and innovators of the past is doing only that…acknowledging the work of individuals who did their job, and saw how Islam enhanced the scientific community and the world. At this point, it is the responsibility and spiritual requirement for us to return this and do it better than they did, and learn from the past to be better stewards to humanity.

    The future is bright, but contingent on open and fair assessments internally!!!!

  8. A small point: I’m not a lawyer, but I’m not sure how well one’s options in an instance of workplace discrimination map onto a discriminatory interview. As an employee, you have an established relationship with certain obligations, a documented history (possibly of the discrimination itself) and possible allies in the company. I’m sure there are also statutes that also apply to hiring, but how realistic would it be to file a suit on the basis of one unrecorded conversation with a stranger (and who would want to hire such a troublemaker)?

    More generally (and more to the point): It’s clear from this discussion that Native Deen has to tread a fine line. Positions of influence in a marginalized community are fraught with dangers: at one turn, you are too sympathetic to “your own”, at another you’ve sold out to “the man” (note the link to Native Deen’s State Department sponsored trip). As a Muslim journalist (and a very good one, I might add), I’m sure you can relate to this yourself.

    I say a [insert opposite of plague here] on both your houses.

  9. Salaam Aleikum,

    Many American Muslims and Muslims living in America are not marginalized. That’s a real part of American Muslim life, too, and it needs to be heard. Many of us are in a position to take legal recourse against religious discrimination and to speak up in the media, that’s our experience and thank Allah for it. It helps all of us, especially those who don’t have those personal resources. And we don’t live in an Ivory Tower. This is how we live and it is a valid experience.

    Please note that the recent large-scale Pew study ( of American Muslims found that, in general, American Muslims are middle class and mainstream, with educational levels that are slightly higher than non-Muslim Americans and low-income rates that are only 2% higher than the non-Muslim American public. Furthermore, “most [Muslims surveyed] say their communities are excellent or good places to live.” I think Sr. Useem is an excellent representative of this majority group of Muslims.

    I’m not trying to discount the views of Muslims who feel they are marginalized and discriminated against, but to balance that with the views of those of us who do not feel that way.

    I’m reminded of something a fellow American convert once told me, “Remember, this is your religion, too.” I’m white, middle class, I have a Master’s degree, I have a good, mainstream job, I do not feel discriminated against, and I’m Muslim, too.

    Thank you ReligionWriter.

  10. Way back when, I was the keyboardist for a sometimes political rock’n'roll band (trust me, you’ve never heard of us). Inevitably, we were often criticized for not presenting “the big picture”. Besides the small problem of getting two people to agree on what “the big picture” is, there was a much bigger, and ultimately insurmountable, problem:

    Rock’n'roll is a rotten vehicle for presenting “the big picture”. And the same goes for the blues, folk music, hip-hop and whatever other form of pop music you can name.

    It is, however, a very good vehicle for presenting little pictures: small, anecdotal stories that perhaps the listener can identify with on some personal, emotional level. And most of the best political music has done just that: Johnny Cash’s “Five Feet High and Rising”, or Marvin Gaye’s “Inner City Blues”, or Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five’s “The Message”, or Black Flag’s “Thirsty And Miserable”. You won’t find “the big picture” in any of those songs. But you will find some compelling stories about people and the world they live in.

    Of course, every once in a while my band would tap into our inflated sense of self-importance and try to create a song that presented “the big picture”, but we’d invariably end up with a meandering, unfocused dirge that nobody wanted to hear twice.

    So while I understand what you’re trying to say, Andrea, it sounds like you’re expecting “the big picture” from an artform that isn’t designed for that purpose. I mean, it may be true that “Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act makes it unlawful for employers to discriminate on the basis of religion”, but that makes for a lousy rock’n'roll lyric.

    I won’t say that you’re asking for the impossible, Andrea, but you’re probably asking for the unlistenable.

    best wishes, Marcello :-)

  11. Asalamu Alaykum,

    I don’t think this will pass the keen eyes of you moderators but I’ll take my chances……

    I find it so suprising that people think that they can shuffle through and ‘critique’ the situations facing Muslims when they themselves do not uphold fundamental religious obligations. Maybe the problems we face lie closer to home. Call me narrow minded or whatever but I find all this hard to swallow coming from a Woman who chooses to disregard what might seem like a simple piece of cloth but symbolises so much more.

    Either way I’d rather leave this to all you ‘intellectual, fully intergrated Muslims’ out there. Don’t know why I’m complaining though, after all we have it pretty good. Not really relavant that our Brothers and Sisters are getting massacred all over the world by the leaders of the ‘civilised’ world, at least they give us our legal rights here. Let them rape our Mothers and sisters as long as they let you go about your business here.

    PS: Completely ignore everything you have read so far. What I have spoken no longer relevant in a world where the jewels of freedom and truth is protected by an army of thieves.


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  13. Salaams Andrea – great interview!! Really gets to the nub of the matter – Muslims themselves are in such disarray – no wonder journalists are confused about Islam! But having said that - I do think journalists shouldn’t tiptoe around the facts but instead acknowledge the current discussions swirling w/in the American Muslim community in particular. Yes, there’s no one person authorized or empowered to speak for all Muslims - thank God, but that doesn’t mean each & every Muslim should be afraid to voice their opinion from their own perspective.

  14. I have not listened to the entire CD but I don’t need to in order to respond. On one level you seem to have some dissapointment in that this album isn’t as “warm and fuzzy” perhaps as Deen You Know. I was surprised however at your reaction in terms of not wanting your children to hear a particular track. I was expecting you to say someone forgot to put one of those Parental Advisory stickers on the album the way you characterized it. ND decided to take a more mature or political approach on this album and frankly that is a core component of progressive hip-hop. That is a part of the genre. Also this is Art not a political thesis. While an employer may not state overtly that we won’t hire you wearing hijab you are perhaps being too literal in your analysis. The POINT is that discrimination in the workplace exists and it may challenge your religious fortitude but “don’t be afraid to stand alone because Allah is by your side” (i.e. you are not really alone). So the example may be a bit “exaggerated” but only in its overtness not in its reality. But what I do think your analysis brings up is that it’s tough to break out of a particular image or “flow” that your audience is accustomed to. When I think of the rap group Public Enemy I think politics, struggle, enlightenment. When I think of LL Cool J or Jay-Z I don’t think that. People have a particular image of Native Deen based off of previous material and live shows. I think part of your concern stems from them adding some Public Enemy when you were used to a little Will Smith. Thanks for the article however. Varying opinions are important to hear even if I myself may not agree with them.

  15. this is a best nasheed for ever. every day i’ll put that on

  16. Assalamu alaikum

    You are right that Muslims shouldn’t always portray themselves as the victims, but I think that Native Deen was only doing it to make people feel confident about hijab and to work hard to please Allah. Let us not be quick to judge inshallah

  17. “diplomacy can destroy poetry!!!”,my sister was right also in saying
    muslims are being murdered,raped,repressed,oppressed.
    it’s not a game,it ain’t nothing nice about it,RAPUNZEL.

  18. I find this critique very interesting coming from a lily white american. Let’s not pretend that prejudice and injustice doesn’t exsist in America. And just because we now have a Black president doesn’t mean the bigots will all disappear. Maybe you haven’t been discriminated because of the color of your skin and I haven’t either but lets not pretend that it doesn’t happen because it does and it happens everyday. Maybe we Muslims here have it better than other muslims around the world but our beloved Prophet (PBUH) said that the believer must love for your brother what you love yourself. My dear, our brothers and sisters are dying everyday at the hands of our government. So until you have walked a mile in the shoes of those who have been broken by this great nation, shut the hell up.

  19. ok i can’t change how you feel about Native Deen, but they are only doing whats right. their lyrics are true and alot of it is their own experience. none of their lives have been easy of course because of being Muslims but they encourage other muslims to stay strong. and its true that everytime something happens thats to do with “Muslims” its always making muslims look bad. people have to understand that Islam does NOT preach horrific things, people are responsible for their own actions. whereas if you see a person of any other religion it’s always overlooked like its a normal thing. and im not trying to insult anybody or anybodys religion because i respect people of all faiths. im just trying to say that Native Deen would not write songs about something that wasnt true. and they’ve actually helped people understand Islam through their music so i dont see why people have a problem with this. if you dont like listening to Native Deen then its simple: just dont listen to them! however i will always be a Native Deen fan InshAllah and May Allah reward them for all of their hard work and sufferings. Ameen. keep doing what you do guys :)

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